Lynne Baab • Thursday October 14 2021
I never really understood or appreciated small talk until we lived in Dunedin, New Zealand, for ten years. The weather there often changes more than once each day. When chatting with the administrative people in my department at the university or with checkers at the grocery store, I could say, “Did you enjoy that sunny Sunday afternoon?” or “Wasn’t that windstorm amazing?” Weather was a fuel for communicating warmth, without taking the time to interact deeply. Weather talk, like all small talk at its best, says, “I care about you but I don’t have the time/energy/inclination for a deep conversation right now.”
In a recent New York Times article, Tressie McMillan Cottom, writer, sociologist and professor, argues that advice giving sometimes functions like small talk. This distresses me. McMillan Cottom believes that advice giving is very popular in American society right now. She says that most advice “feels like an aggressive judgment of my entire being, a kind of property assessment.” I’m with her there. I really dislike getting advice that I didn’t ask for, so receiving advice as small talk does not communicate care to me in any way.
However, I love to give advice. This juxtaposition of giving something to others that I dislike receiving came to the forefront for me in 2011 and 2012 when I was doing the research for my book on listening. I read multiple books and textbooks on interpersonal communication. Many of them described advice giving under a larger category of the things we do that shortcut listening. When we feel any kind of discomfort as we listen, most of us have favored strategies to increase our comfort, such as taking the conversation back by telling our own story, asking a question to change the subject, shifting to a practical task (“let’s get those dishes done), and giving advice.
From reading all those books, and from the interviews about listening I conducted with ministers and leaders of congregations, I came to realize that the biggest obstacle to good listening is the inner noise we experience when people talk. When people describe a problem, we may feel uneasy letting the problem sit there unsolved. We may feel we are supposed to know how to fix it. I wrote last week about the Holy Spirit’s call to me to acknowledge that other people’s lives belong to them, not to me.
Through my listening research, the Holy Spirit exposed my hypocrisy, that I dislike getting advice but enjoy giving it. I am trying to be more aware of what’s going on inside of me when I feel that urge to jump in with advice. Why am I uncomfortable with letting the situation the other person is describing belong to them? Why am I uncomfortable with sadness, struggles, and uncertainty when others describe their life? Why do I act like sadness, struggles, and uncertainty should be solved, and solved by me? My propensity to give advice has been a major source of pondering for the past decade and a significant Holy Spirit disruption.
Perhaps because of that pondering, I was totally revolted at the pattern described by Tressie McMillan Cottom of people using advice as small talk: strangers in line in a coffee shop giving advice to the person standing next to them as a way to connect. Here are some of McMillan Cottom’s thoughts about advice. Read these words as if Jesus were sitting right beside you. Ask him what he thinks about your patterns of giving advice.
“That is the thing about advice: It is seductive. Even though we resist being judged, we enjoy being the judge. Advice is a method by which we manipulate status to negotiate interpersonal interactions. By giving advice, we enact tiny theaters of social dominance to signal or procure our social status over others. . . . We also use advice giving to reinforce our self-perception as one who knows, and cultivate that perception in others.” (“Why Everyone Is Always Giving Unsolicited Advice,” New York Times, October 1, 2021)
Ouch! May God guide us into loving patterns of conversation.
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Some previous posts that mention advice giving:
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Lynne M. Baab, Ph.D., is an author and adjunct professor. She has written numerous books, Bible study guides, and articles for magazines and journals. Lynne is passionate about prayer and other ways to draw near to God, and her writing conveys encouragement for readers to be their authentic selves before God. She encourages experimentation and lightness in Christians spiritual practices. Read more »
Lynne is pleased to announce the release of her two 2024 books, both of them illustrated with her talented husband Dave's watercolors. She is thrilled at how good the watercolors look in the printed books, and in the kindle versions, if read on a phone, the watercolors glow. Friendship, Listening and Empathy: A Prayer Guide guides the reader into new ways to pray about the topics in the title. Draw Near: A Lenten Devotional guides the reader to a psalm for each day of Lent and offers insightful reflection/discussion questions that can be used alone or in groups.
Another recent book is Two Hands: Grief and Gratitude in the Christian Life, available in paperback, audiobook, and for kindle. Lynne's 2018 book is Nurturing Hope: Christian Pastoral Care for the Twenty-First Century, and her most popular book is Sabbath-Keeping: Finding Freedom in the Rhythms of Rest (now available as an audiobook as well as paperback and kindle). You can see her many other book titles here, along with her Bible study guides.
You can listen to Lynne talk about these topics: empathy, bringing spiritual practices to life. Sabbath keeping for recent grads., and Sabbath keeping for families and children.
Lynne was interviewed for the podcast "As the Crow Flies". The first episode focuses on why listening matters and the second one on listening skills.
Here are two talks Lynne gave on listening (recorded in audio form on YouTube): Listening for Mission and Ministry and Why Listening Matters for Mission and Ministry.
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